
I read somewhere the other day that photosharing sites like Flickr and Picasa spell the death knell of professional photography. And, as a friend said, “Well, with digital Joe Soap can now take a thousand photos to get the one perfect shot.” Given that I’ve always shot off an entire roll of film in search of the one perfect shot, digital is right up my street. And it must be said, there is some stunning photography on the photo sites - and I really would urge you to go and take a mooch around if you want to indulge in some sheer beauty and creativity for a while. You can see from the photographs that people really have a passion for their hobby and many in fact turn it into a true art form or into way of earning an income by sending work to stock photography and greeting card companies.
But as much as there is all this great photography out there, there is also another phenomenon…
I’ve spoken before about the sycophancy that exists in and around the social web and many others have also commented it – and a good number of arguments have arisen. But if one thought it could get bad in blogosphere, you should see it in action on a site like Flickr. (Note, I'm using Flickr as an example because it's the site with which I'm most familiar but there are several photosharing sites out there like Webshots, Dropshots, Photobucket and, as I've already mentioned, Picasa.)
I signed up to Flickr as I wanted a place to post and store my pics without cluttering up my blog, but having been there for a while now I’ve noticed this other phenomenon. As with blogs there is a comments feature. There is also an awards feature. And this is where the madness really starts. Now while I’m all for a bit of fun, reciprocity and mutual admiration, I’m less keen on rank insanity and rampant sycophancy. And boy is there some rampant sycophancy on Flickr.
It seems one of the aims of some people is to rack up as many comments and awards as possible. To gain or give an award you have to join one of the gazillion photographic groups on Flickr. Could be nature photography, macro photography, animal photography, flower photography, blue ribbon, platinum, gold star, envy of, my winner etc photography. There are more groups out there than is imaginable. And for every award given and received, the receiver, if posting the awarded shot to said group is generally obliged to comment on or provide an additional award to others in the group. So it’s a case of someone was nice to me, now I’ll be nice to you. Kind of a play it forward thing. The trouble is it can get totally out of hand. And if you've been given several awards it can take hours doddling from group to group dispensing complimentary largesse.
Take the case of Nameless Wonder. Frankly, I’m convinced Nameless Wonder must be running a social experiment in sycophancy and self gratitude. Nameless appears to visit numerous people where Nameless leaves a string of awards. (For the life of me I can't work out how Nameless chooses which photo to praise because it seems quite arbitrary.) Needless to say, one then feels obliged to return the favour and post an award or two on Nameless’s photos. But here’s the thing. Nameless’s photos are “ornery” at best. Yet, Nameless, because of the award “generosity” shown to others garners bundles of awards on the odd photo which is posted every now and then. I cannot for the life of me believe that the awards are given with any degree of sincerity because the photos simply don’t merit it. It is all, I’m sure, about “you scratched my back so now I’d better scratch yours" with the subtext, "because (ultimately) I want more backscratching from you”. It opens up an interesting psychological debate (which could be the subject of a whole post) about the neediness and desire for self gratification to which we seem so inclined.
The other instance is Nameless Wonder 2. This Wonder has over two and half thousand contacts. Can one actually keep track of so many people? He is a member of more groups than I can count. His approach seems to be as follows: You see a photo of his which you genuinely like. You leave a comment complimenting the work and maybe bestow an award. Next thing you know, you’re one of his contacts and so the mutual admiration society is expected to develop.
Frankly, I just can’t be doing with it. As much as I enjoy photography, I don’t do it to gain the approval or admiration of others. I do it because I love it. I post my work to Flickr not because I want kudos but because it’s a place to store some of my better work (i.e. it’s a good backup system) and where my friends can, should they so wish, see what I’ve been up to. It also provides those who don’t know South Africa in its multiple facets with a chance to take a peek.
Creative expression is one of the greatest gifts given to us and there is some truly stunning work out there that deserves praise, but honestly, this insane butt-licking that goes on, well, erm, it’s actually just a bit too egocentrically icky.
15 comments:
seems it is even more mad than here in blogosphere.
And i dont believe in such kind of "appreciation" which requites something back in return. You cant really believe on honesty in this case. People just do this so that they could get something back. I just dont get what is the point of this? Some kind of self-satisfaction?
Amen to that post.
Madness indeed.
And I thought it all happens only here in Bloggerville.Sigh!
Loved the first pic.Is that a natural stone gateway or a man made one?
Seems that way to me too, Lena. I honestly think it's all about some kind of narcissistic self-gratification. Which is a pity, because there is some genuinely excellent work out there.
Yep, madness it is, MD.
I think it's part and parcel of the "human condition", Sameera.
The first pic is of an old slave bell on a farm - I thought the juxtaposition of that with the dead trees was nicely appropriate.
Surely this needy facet of human nature goes on everywhere to a certain extent? We are pleased when a blog post gets comments and keeping a blog alive means tending to acquaintances both new and old.
I hate the reciprocal commenting for commenting sake (and the bloody award thingies) but it seems it goes with the territory unless you want to be Billy-no-blog-mates.
So, my favourite, darling, darling blogger, Vanilli, I'll expect you over to my blog later then?
I usually take photos when I am abroad and due to some reason photos don't end up as I imagined. A fellow tourist push me or walks between the camera and the sight and so on.
I had no clue about this in flickr.
but you know what it looks so much similar to blogs..and now every time I get a "like it" comment on my posts..I will have to keep this in mind :)
Pretty much all awards given out on weblogs or Flickr or other social software are just a form of mass marketing that are perpetuated through the guilt of the receiver to pass it along.
I figure if you sincerely want to honour someone with an 'award' or praise, there should be no obligation for the recipient to link back or sign up or pass it along.
Aww you're a harsh woman! I know what you mean tho there are plenty of sycophantic comments out there on photo sites and blogs. False compliments are easily seen through. I have no problem with awards or comments as long as they're genuine. Flickr for me is a storage vat, it's my virtual photo album and most of my shots are for friends and family anyway and not viewable by the general public. As for awards . . . I don't care about them, I have some on my site because they're given by people I like (one or two from you I think Ms Vanilla!)but I don't pass them on as a rule. Then I must be a shit photographer . . I only have 5 commenters on my pics and they're all fellow bloggers!Plus I tend not to look at others except the pics of those few. Does this mean that I can't say what a lovely duck you shot (metaphorically speaking)
Oh yes, gorgeous, lovely, wonderful, marvellous Minxy, it certainly does go with the territory. Now, just nipping over to your place...
Snapping photos can be a tricky business sometimes, Ropi, that's for sure! ;-)
You know, Rambler, I think it's worse on Flickr somehow, it certainly seems that way to me because what you get isn't people telling you they "like it" necessarily, but just dishing out an award because they have to because the rules of the group say if they've posted a pic they must give the comment award to two or three other people. So you get people who you just know are barely admiring the pic but just dishing out the award to ensure their own photo stays up and also generates some of it's own awards. It's all rather bizarre - though of course, there is genuine admiration and appreciation out there too.
Yep, Rob - I think you've hit the nail on the head!
Aww, no, Ms Baino, I'm not harsh, I just tells it like it is. See my comment to Rambler above. There is something in Flickr that I've not encountered in the blogosphere. With Flickr, as I said to Rambler, there really is a case of "just gotta dish this comment award to someone, anyone so my pic can remain up." So you really do have to question the motives. And I know, and feel I can say this, because I've fallen into the trap, so I'm not speaking from some point of higher angelic wisdom! ;-)
Yes it is indeed!Makes a story by itself :)
Thanks for the visit and I hope that you are more successful the next time.
I have also been given awards. The sort that you have to put on your blog and pass on. I have always refused to do so, simply because it can't be done on both my blogs.
lol
Amen. Isn't it obnoxious?
And, with complete sincerity... you know I *LOVE* your photography.
Keep shooting and pay no mind to the social back patters.
Scarlett & Viaggiatore
I just started using flickr but not too much yet and didn't come on this madness yet, and it sounds like madness indeed. like you I like the idea of another place to back up my photos.
I've been taking photographs since I was a wee lass, was hesitant about digital, but in the years since I received my first digital point and shoot have grown to LOVE it - all I have to think of is all the money I save. for I have always found sometimes it takes a whole roll to get the one really good shot!
Maybe I should put up a few of my blurry wonders to see if they garner any awards. That'd be a good test!
All seems rather daft to me!
Your pictures are lovely AV. As someone who struggles to remember to take the lens cap off, I love and admire good photography. Part of me is just envious of course but mostly it's because it's such a marvellous way to see the world through the eye of another person. That said anyone looking at the majority of my photos would be forgiven for thinking I was permanently in my cups!! - Please feel free to never have to return the compliment!
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